Stroud and the valleys

Rooflight and skylight installation in Frampton on Severn, and the roof it has to sit in.

Frampton on Severn: long green, timber frame and brick. What that changes about getting glass into a roof is the whole of this page.

  • Covered from Gloucester
  • 15 years on Gloucestershire roofs
  • 10 year workmanship guarantee
From Gloucester by road
10 to 22 milesApproximate, and inside the 30 mile radius
Dominant roof stock
Cotswold stone slate on steep valley pitchesWhat the covering is decides the detail
The usual constraint
Steep site access above and below the houseSettled at survey, before anything is ordered
Local character
long green, timber frame and brickRecorded for Frampton on Severn specifically
In Frampton on Severn

What we fit on Frampton on Severn roofs

The local detail

Fourteen things worth knowing about Frampton on Severn roofs, and what each one changes.

Frampton on Severn is arranged around one of the largest village greens in England, and that single piece of geography governs more rooflight decisions here than the age of any individual house does. A front roof slope in a normal village is seen from a pavement eight metres away by people walking past it. A front roof slope at Frampton is seen from hundreds of metres back, from every angle across open grass, as part of a long composition of frontages that reads as one thing. Severn Skylights Gloucester installs and replaces rooflights throughout the village and the low ground between the Severn and the canal, travelling in from Gloucester. This page is about what the green, the Georgian frontages and the low-lying land actually change about the work.

A green wide enough to change what the front slope means

Distance does something counter-intuitive to visibility. Close up, a rooflight is one detail among many on a facade full of detail. From two hundred metres across open grass, all the small detail disappears and what remains legible is the silhouette, the roof plane, and anything that interrupts it or catches the light. A rooflight is one of the few things at that scale that still registers.

The result is a straightforward design rule at Frampton. Anything on a slope facing the green is designed as if it were on a principal elevation, because in visual terms it is one, and that means a flush, dark framed, modestly sized unit or nothing at all. Anything on a rear slope facing gardens and orchards behind is a far easier proposition, because there is no equivalent public vantage point behind the village. The first question at survey is therefore which way the roof faces relative to the open ground, and it is answered with a photograph taken from the far side of the grass.

Frampton’s Georgian brick frontages, and the roof pitch behind them

The formal Georgian and Regency houses along the village have flat, ordered brick frontages, sash windows in a strict rhythm, and roofs that sit further back and lower than they appear. Some have a parapet or a raised verge concealing the eaves, and the covering behind is commonly Welsh slate at a shallower pitch than the front elevation suggests.

Two consequences at survey. First, a shallow slope behind a parapet may sit below the fifteen degree minimum that most manufactured roof windows are rated for, in which case the correct product is a kerb-mounted unit on a small upstand rather than an in-plane window. Second, where there is a parapet gutter, its falls and outlets are the true constraint on position, and on an attached pair those outlets are sometimes shared. A unit placed without reference to them creates a drainage problem that has nothing to do with the glass. The alignment question also matters visually: on a facade with a strict window rhythm, a rooflight that does not line up with the openings below looks wrong from across the green even when it is small.

Timber framed cottages behind the Frampton brick

Not everything at Frampton is Georgian, and quite a lot of what looks Georgian is older behind the face. The village has timber framed buildings, some of them encased in brick or under render, where an eighteenth or nineteenth century frontage was applied to a much earlier structure. From the green you see brick. From the loft you see a frame.

That changes the work substantially. A historic timber frame has principal rafters, purlins tenoned into them, wind bracing and pegged mortice and tenon joints, and the roof is part of the frame rather than something sitting on it. A principal rafter is not a common rafter and is not cut. Common rafters between them are hand cut, irregular in depth and centre, and frequently undersized by modern standards. An opening in a roof like this is set out to fall entirely within one bay of the historic frame, with new trimmers taking the load from the cut common rafters into the principals, and where that is not achievable the position moves rather than the frame. Where the building is listed, the frame is a protected feature in its own right and consent covers the internal work as well.

Steep pitch is good news for weathering and awkward news for everything else.

Low ground between the Severn and the canal, and the question homeowners ask first

Frampton sits on low, flat land close to the tidal Severn, with the Gloucester and Sharpness Canal running past to the west. People who live on ground like this think about water differently from people who do not, and it is reasonable that the first question about a rooflight is often some version of whether it will let water in.

That question deserves a proper answer rather than reassurance. A rooflight is a hole cut in the one surface of a building that is deliberately designed to shed water, and whether it stays dry has almost nothing to do with the unit and almost everything to do with what is built around it. The unit is the small half of the job. So the honest response to a cautious homeowner is not a promise, it is a description of the four details that decide the outcome, and a guarantee written against those four rather than against the glass.

A Cotswold stone slate roof laid in diminishing courses, largest slates at the eaves
The covering

Stone slate on a steep valley pitch, where the access to the roof is the first thing to solve.

Cotswold stone slate on steep valley pitches, which is what the survey is looking at before it looks at the glass.

The four details that decide whether a Frampton installation stays dry

Everything that fails on a rooflight fails at the perimeter, and it fails in one of four places. All four are buried by the time anyone sees the finished work, which is precisely why they get skipped by people in a hurry.

  • Upstand height. On a flat roof, 150mm measured from the finished surface of the waterproofing at the high point of the fall. Not from the deck, not from the low corner. Standing water, snow and wind driven rain all climb, and 150mm is the height at which they stop.
  • Falls. Designed at around 1:40 so that after deflection and timber movement the finished fall is no shallower than 1:80. Water leaves the roof rather than standing against the kerb.
  • Flashing laps and the fixing pattern. Lapped in the direction of flow, laps increased above the minimum on exposed elevations, and every piece of lead fixed at the head only so it can move along its length.
  • Where the covering terminates and how the membrane is dressed. A tongue of membrane taken up over the head of the frame and stapled to the batten above, side pieces dressed into the frame’s own drainage channel, so any water that crosses the covering lands on the membrane and runs away outside the frame.

The ten-year workmanship guarantee is written against those four, because they are the four that the workmanship controls. The manufacturer’s warranty on the glass and the frame is a separate document with its own terms, and the survey notes say which is which.

A cautious question about water is the right question, and the answer to it is a list of dimensions rather than an assurance.

Clay tile, Welsh slate and the re-covered Frampton roof

Coverings in the village are mixed and frequently not original. Clay plain tile at 35 to 45 degrees, Welsh slate at 25 to 45, occasional pantile on outbuildings, and a fair amount of twentieth century concrete tile on roofs that were re-covered when the original material gave out.

A re-covered roof is worth identifying at survey because it changes what is underneath. Concrete tiles are considerably heavier than the Welsh slate they often replaced, and a roof re-covered without strengthening carries more load than it was built for, which shows in deflected rafters and a dipping ridge line. If a roof is already working hard, cutting a rafter into it needs a more careful look at the trimmer design. Conversely, a re-covered roof usually gained a modern underlay in the process, which makes the membrane detail around a new frame considerably easier than it is on a roof that still has none.

On Frampton on Severn roofs Steep site access above and below the house.

Rooflights on a Frampton rear slope, where the village cannot see them

Because the public vantage point at Frampton is so overwhelmingly on one side, the rear slope is where the useful glass goes, and it is usually the slope that faces the garden, the orchard or the paddock behind. That is fortunate, because it is also frequently the north or east facing slope, which suits the room better than people expect.

A north facing rooflight gives even, steady, glare-free daylight with no solar gain problem to manage, which is why artists’ studios have always been lit that way. On such a slope, solar control glass is the wrong specification, because it removes daylight from a room that has none to spare. What that slope wants instead is a low emissivity coating on the inner pane, the best whole-unit U value available, and a reveal built to throw light: vertical lining at the head, horizontal lining at the cill, both sides splayed. The glazing choices are set out on energy efficient rooflights, and the in-plane installation itself on roof window installation.

A wide view from the Cotswold escarpment across the Severn Vale in warm light
The escarpment and the Vale. Thirty miles by road covers both, and they are not the same roofs.

Wide plots, long drives and the easiest access in the district

After the Stroud valleys, working at Frampton is a relief. Plots are wide, drives are long, there is grass and hardstanding to work from, and a lorry can usually get within reach of the elevation. Scaffold goes up conventionally on sole boards, glass is lifted without a hand-carry, and material can be set down near the house rather than a street away.

Two cautions apply. The ground is soft in winter and a heavy vehicle on wet grass leaves ruts that are worse than the job, so delivery routes are agreed rather than improvised, and boards go down where a wheel has to cross grass. And where a scaffold stands anywhere near the green or the highway, the licence from the highway authority is arranged before the date is confirmed. Access is one of the biggest single variables in what a rooflight costs across the county, and at Frampton it works in the customer’s favour.

Barns and outbuildings around Frampton, converted and converting

The farmland around the village produced a stock of barns, stables and cart sheds, and a proportion of them have been converted or are candidates for it. A barn roof is a specific technical case rather than a house roof with a bigger span.

The structure is usually a series of substantial trusses or principal rafters at wide centres, with common rafters or purlins between them and a covering of stone slate, clay tile or corrugated sheet. Wide truss centres are an advantage, because there is more clear width between structural members than a domestic roof gives, so a larger unit often fits without cutting anything important. The disadvantages are the height, the insulation build-up, and the fact that a converted barn usually has a fully sloping ceiling, so the reveal box is deep and needs splaying hard to avoid shadowing the room. Where a barn is listed or sits within a curtilage, the same consent rules apply as for a house, and the roof structure is likely to be a protected feature.

Stroud and the valleys

Two houses fifty yards apart in these valleys can need entirely different access.

Read how we survey for this

Frampton’s flat rear extensions and garden rooms

Modern flat roofed extensions sit behind a good number of the older houses in the village, and on the flat the product changes. A rooflight in trade use is a unit for a flat or nearly flat roof: it sits on a kerb built up above the roof surface, the glass is usually one plane set at a shallow angle, the frame is slim aluminium, and the sizes are made to order rather than picked off a list.

The build-up is a treated timber kerb on the deck, insulated on its outer face so it is not a cold ring around the glass, with the waterproofing dressed up the kerb and over the top so the upstand becomes part of the roof. Glass sits at a minimum of about five degrees, because below that rain does not shed and the unit looks dirty within weeks. Where a single-ply or EPDM roof is being laid new, the kerb is built as part of it. Where it already exists, the existing falls decide whether the position asked for is the position that works. That work is described on flat roof rooflight installation.

A roof lantern over a Frampton kitchen, and the structure under it

Lanterns go over kitchens and dining spaces, and they add height and volume rather than just daylight. A lantern is a framed structure with several sloping glass planes rising to a ridge, and it is heavier and more involved to set out than a flat unit of the same footprint.

What people underestimate is the structure below. A large lantern means a large hole in a deck, and the trimming around it carries the lantern’s own weight plus the roof loading that the removed joists used to carry. On a wide opening that is a designed timber or steel member rather than a doubled joist, and it is calculated before the order goes in, not after. In a village house where the extension abuts an older rear wall, the bearing at that end also needs looking at, because a rubble stone or soft-brick wall is not a reliable padstone without work. The setting out, the kerb and the glass options are on roof lantern installation.

Two houses fifty yards apart in these valleys can need entirely different access.

A Cotswold limestone cottage with a steep stone slate roof in warm afternoon sun
The covering

Stone slate on a steep valley pitch, where the access to the roof is the first thing to solve.

Cotswold stone slate on steep valley pitches, which is what the survey is looking at before it looks at the glass.

Ventilation in a low-lying Frampton house

Water on the room side of the glass is not water getting in, and this is worth separating out clearly in a village where people are alert to damp. Warm air holds moisture, a household generates plenty of it from cooking, showering and drying clothes indoors, and that air rises. The coldest surface in a room with a rooflight is the glass overhead, so that is where the moisture lands first. On a cold clear morning a rooflight can run with condensation while every other surface in the house is dry, and that is physics behaving correctly.

Three things control it. A vent flap or trickle vent in the head of the unit gives continuous background ventilation, and it is the one most often left shut. Purge ventilation, meaning opening the unit properly for a few minutes, clears a humid room faster than anything else. And the reveal geometry: a horizontal lining under the window lets warm air from a radiator wash up the glass, while a splayed cill traps a pocket of still cold air against it and guarantees a wet sill. On a site with river mist and long damp spells the outdoor air offers less drying, which makes the background vent more important rather than less.

Building Control, the sequence of the work, and how a Frampton job starts

Forming a new opening is notifiable work, and so is replacing a unit in most circumstances. Structure, thermal performance, fire escape, ventilation and safety glazing all touch it, the application is submitted and the inspections booked as part of the job, and the completion certificate comes back in the homeowner’s name. It is the paperwork a buyer’s solicitor asks for, so it is worth keeping.

On the day, scaffold or a tower goes up, floors and furniture are covered, the covering is stripped back and stacked for re-use, the membrane is cut and dressed, the opening is formed and trimmed, and the unit is set, fixed and flashed before the covering is re-laid into the flashings. The roof is never left open overnight, and that governs the sequence rather than the other way round: an opening is not started unless it can be closed and made watertight the same day. Pricing runs as an indicative range by email first and a fixed itemised price after the survey, described on costs. Coverage across the county is on the areas we cover pages, with nearby vale work on rooflight installation in Newnham on Severn. Email info@severnskylightsgloucester.co.uk with a photograph of the roof and one of the room to begin.

Also covered: Stroud and the valleys

Near Frampton on Severn, and on the same roads out.

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